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I'm tired. I forgot how to sleep last night. I was lying down and I had my eyes shut and I wasn't too hot or too cold and I didn't need a wee, but still I couldn't sleep. I'm not prone to insomnia but every time it happens I worry that I've lost the knack entirely and that would sadden me because I like to think that what I'm best at is sleeping. I blunder incompetently through my waking hours, making all the wrong decisions and forgetting how to use daylight and wakefulness, but then nighttime comes and I get to show off my real talent. Hopefully it'll be fine tonight, but it's particularly vexing at present because I'm trying to store up sleep in preparation for this weekend's unfortunate coincidence of British Summer Time and the Australian Grand Prix. Sunday morning's going to be tiring.

I started to write a post about all the telly I've been watching of late and it mostly turned into a massive rant about how boring DS9 is. My brother says if I stick with it a little bit longer I'll be rewarded with a Worf, and a ship, and some plots, but it's really, really hard-going. And also massively self-important. I started reading peripheral material, which was a big mistake. Mostly its powers that be get vastly over-excited about how their single location enables them to have arc-plots and character development and MORAL DARKNESS as though these are things no telly programme had ever attempted before. I know TOS and TNG didn't really do arc-plots or character development (DS9's pretending they didn't do moral darkness either, and it can think that, Jane, if it gives it comfort). I know the ways in which this is less than entirely ideal, but also I think that if you start off with people as brilliant as Riker and Worf and the like, you don't really need to bother developing them. Development's for people who can't come up with interesting characters from the get-go. Also I think DS9 should stop underestimating the value of 170-something standalone more-or-less-any-order lack-of-commitment style episodes with dozens of different planets and ships and aliens as though it's somehow less clever than twelve convoluted strands of boring. I don't see the point in bragging about arc-plots if they're all too dull to actually follow.

That was the rant, basically. You should note that I'm basing this rant on two and a half seasons, most of which I didn't properly watch. Maybe it gets lovely. Maybe they remember to write interesting characters and use the full spectrum of colours.

Date: 2010-03-26 05:35 pm (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (Guinan)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. I'm not lying, but my restore draft at the moment is a rant much like this one about how we waited and we stuck with it and we got all the way to season four and there's a ship and a worf and it's ALL VERY WELL BUT OH MY GOD HOW CAN IT BE THIS BORING HOW CAN IT BE THIS BORING HOW? It defies belief. It's just crap, Sam. Give up on it.

Also I think DS9 should stop underestimating the value of 170-something standalone more-or-less-any-order lack-of-commitment style episodes with dozens of different planets and ships and aliens as though it's somehow less clever than twelve convoluted strands of boring. I don't see the point in bragging about arc-plots if they're all too dull to actually follow.

I LOVE YOU.

It doesn't get lovely. And they mostly get rid of the TINY BIT OF COLOUR THEY HAVE and wear grey. As if that's a plan. And and and and and I JUST HATE THEM ALL AND I HATE ALL THEIR FANS BECAUSE THEY'RE IDIOTS. And I hate the tedious never ending mirror universe, because it's got stupid ds9 people in it, not real people, and IT IS JUST THEM EVEN MORE BORING. ANd everything they do is boring because everyone is boring. And and and YOU ARE SO RIGHT about starting off with characters like Riker and EVERYONE ON TNG EVERYONE, you don't need to go around changing them every three years in an attempt to make them bearable. or interesting. Whatever they're aiming for on deep space nine.

I love tng. We spend most of the time watching ds9 and it is always a Kira episode and so we go 'OH GOD WHY CAN'T WE HAVE AN EPISODE ABOUT . . . . ' and then it has to be Riker, or Geordi, OH GOD I MISS GEORDI, because you can't genuinely wish for an episode about ANY of the characters on ds9. I mean some are less boring, but OH GOD TNG IS GLORIOUS. It's glorious in EVERY WAY and deep space nine isn't and OH GOD I LOVE YOU FOR WRITING THIS POST. It sort of has restored slightly my faith in humanity and the internet. Not to get too over the top or anything, but HONESTLY.

Date: 2010-03-26 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whatho.livejournal.com
OH GOOD. LESS COLOUR IS JUST WHAT WE NEEDED. ::clings:: Actually I'm slightly glad it doesn't really get any better because it's so convinced it does and it's really quite worthy and smug and arty and none of that matters if it forgets to be watchable. Why did it not bother to have interesting characters? Thus far I think the only characters I like are O'Brien, because he makes me think of TNG, and maybe that Cardassian who's in love with Bashir. I suspect I'm meant to be in love with Bashir as well, but I'm really not. I don't understand what Kira's for and the only thing that really interests me thus far about Sisko is the steadiness of his monotone.

OH GEORDI. I love Geordi. I miss Geordi in Voyager too, even though I really love Voyager quite a lot. And Riker too, obviously, but the lack of Geordi is very noticable because there are so many situations in which he'd be brilliant, like when something needs mending in an impossibly short amount of time or there's an artificial life-form that wants to be loved.

I think probably I shall have to give up on DS9 whether I want to or not because that's what my brain requires me to do. Halfway through every episode I have no idea what's happened because it's forgotten to be in any sense engaging. It's a silly way to make telly.

Date: 2010-03-26 11:58 pm (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (Default)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
WHERE ARE ALL YOUR OTHER COMMENTS? You have other people on your flist, how do everyone not just come and AGREE WITH YOU when you have made the most agreeable post I have seen in FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER? People are rubbish, Sam. I have to go to eastercon where doctor who will be on and everyone will love it and I am judging them BEFORE I AM EVEN THERE. THAT IS HOW HORRIBLY AWFUL I AM.

I mostly spend voyager being SO GLAD that DS9 is not there that I don't even mind Tom Paris any more, I am Making An Effort with him and he's fine, he's only dull, not actively mind boringly awful. And it's actually quite hilarious how little Chakotay does or affects anything, or is paid attention to. I LOVE VOYAGER. Soon we will have finished a season of BOREDOM and be allowed to watch Voyager again. Probably.

Shane Sparks who I used to love has been arrested for sleeping with a fourteen year old girl and I am so sad. This has nothing to do with star trek but it makes me miserable.

Geordi loves imaginary women and artificial constructs! HE IS AWESOME and I can't really believe star trek without him. When there is plague on deep space nine and *EVERYONE* dies he might totally come and help O'Brien put it back together again. TOTALLY. Alice says he won't, but he TOTALLY MIGHT. I wish there was plague, plague and a sort of lack of reaction to the death of EVERYONE. It's quite nice having Worf, I do have to say that, he is OUTSTANDINGLY PRETTY and often flustered and has the nicest conversation in the world with O'Brien about how he misses the enterprise. That is worth watching the beginning of season 4 for, possibly. OH GOD WORF DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER.

We just had a whole episode about O'Brien and he spent pretty much ALL OF IT not calling Picard, when Picard was the ONLY PERSON HE NEEDED TO TALK TO. It was awful. Also there was a whole sector wide emergency and they didn't call Picard before that. IT'S JUST LUDICROUS, THE WHOLE THING IS LUDICROUS AND RUBBISH AND NOT EVEN PRETTY. IT'S JUST TERRIBLE.

I am thinking of moving to France.

Date: 2010-03-27 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whatho.livejournal.com
I DON'T KNOW. PERHAPS THEY ARE NODDING THEIR SILENT SUPPORT. I'd forgotten about Dr Who. It's a luxury I have. I was moody about not going to Eastercon yesterday and now I'm slightly more resigned to it because it's easier to cope with Dr Who in splendid isolation.

I love Voyager. Its not being DS9 is a real bonus but also I love that it did remember to have quite a few likeable characters, enough to make it easier to ignore the boring ones. I got fonder of Tom when he started playing Captain Proton games in the holodeck, though less fond of B'Elanna when she started going out with Tom. But everyone's fine really and they have plots that I remember to follow and a ship that they love and a Tuvok and a Janeway.

If I'd written DS9 I think about halfway through I'd admit it was time to wipe everyone except O'Brien and Worf out in a massive plague. So maybe that's what happens. Maybe that's what everybody's talking about when they say it gets better. Also the idea of not summoning people like Geordi and Picard when you have the TINIEST excuse to do so and you know them and all that is just a bit too absurd.

Picard is from France. Or he will be. I see no flaws in your plan.

(I am sorry about Shane Sparks.)

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